Julius Oscar VOGT^{[1, 2, 3, 4]}

1814 - 1880  (66 years)

• Name	Julius Oscar VOGT
  Nickname	Jules
  Born	6 Apr 1814	Kaiserslautern, Departément Mont-Tonnere (Donnersberg), Bavaria (French)   [2, 5]
  Christened	6 Apr 1814	Kaiserslautern, Departément Mont-Tonnere (Donnersberg), Bavaria (French)   [2]
  Gender	Male
  Residence	1873	Paris, France   [6]
  	Address: Quai Valmy No 3
  Emigration	7 Sep 1876  [1]
  	From Le Havre France to NYC
  Census	1880	New York, NY, USA   [7]
  	Address: Fordham RR Ave, West Side
  	Julius VOGT, his wife Eugenie, their son Paul Albert, their daughter-in-law Isabelle, and their grandson Lucien Eugene are all listed in the 1880 census as living on Fordham RR Ave, West Side, New York, New York.
  Medical	1 Dec 1880  [8]
  	Cause of Death: Pneumonia and Asthenia after a 6 day illness (onset 25 Nov 1880, death occurred 1 Dec 1880).
  Note	The picture of Julius in my possession is identified by speculation. The photo bears a distinct family resemblence, and it was in the "Family" velvet photo album.
  Note	Julius' middle name was Oscar
  Note	Various listed locations for Julius' birthplace have been found (France, Germany), but the information from the 1880 census listing Bavaria is the most likely to be correct, because it is quite likely that he gave the census taker the information himself.
  Note	Civil and Church birth records subsequently found list Kaiserslautern as the birthplace, formerly in Bavaria, now in the Rhineland Pfalz (or Palintate).
  Note	With reference to the location in Paris where the VOGT family is rumored to have lived, according to an email from Joanne GONSALVES relaying a conversation with Simone (ESNAULT) MCGRATH, "...She also said that Rue de la Paix and Church of the Madeline are where the VERY RICHEST live and go to church. 'High Society' weddings etc. are held at the church. They are in Arrondissement #8, which of course I did not look in because I didn't think they were THAT rich...."
  Note	I found Julius VOGT in the 1993 edition of the German IGI with 1994 addendum, used at the NEHGS library . I had my NEHGS LDS seminar yesterday afternoon (2 March 1996). The seminar was from 1-5, but I headed in fairly early in the morning to acclimate myself and figure out what they had. Got there around 10AM, and found out they had a facilities tour for 1st-timers at 11AM, so I headed up to the reading room to wait for the tour. After I poked around a bit I found the IGI CD-ROMs, and no-one was using them, so I checked out the GERMANY ones (5 disks) to play by myself. The seminar I was attending that afternoon was in theory going to teach me how to use them, but I figured I could try them now and better know what they were talking about for the seminar. Anyway, first thing I typed in was JULIUS VOGT 1814. Lots of JULIUS VOGTs but nothing that fit Bavaria at the right time. The CD-ROM software had dropped me into the middle of the VOGT list, alphabetical by first name, so I decided to scroll up and see if there were any JULES VOGT listings. There was a ton of VOGTs between JULIUS and where JULES would appear so I had to page through dozens of screens of names, mostly JULIAs or derivations. I got to the place in the list where JULES should have been, but there were no JULES listed, so I started scrolling back through the JULIAs to the place where I had started in amongst the JULIUSes. I was scrolling slowly, and something caught my eye..... the name OSCAR. The date was right (actually one day off from my original calculation of his birthday, but that was done by counting back from the XX years YY months ZZ days listing on his death certificate, not from any specific listing of a birthdate), the middle and last name was right, the county (BAYERN) was right, the location was right beside the Alsase-Lorraine. The only problem was he was listed as a female - JULIA! The source of the information was listed as extracted records, which I later (in my seminar) learned was massive record copying rather than specific family submissions (though it looks like someone later claimed him, since he has ordinances listed). You and I have both seen these old records and it is quite possible (even likely) that the handwriting was difficult to read and an old German script JULIUS might be mistaken for a JULIA. I have never EVER seen OSCAR used as a girls name. The dates and places are too close. Receipt of the original on microfilm confirmed that it was a listing for a male child.
  Note	1 Dec 1880	New York, NY, USA   [1, 8, 11]
  	Address: Madison Ave. and 173rd St., SE Corner E 4th Ward
  	Julius' address at the time of his death is listed as: Madison Ave. and 173rd St., SE Corner E 4th Ward. Julius is also listed as being in the U.S. for 4 years at time of his death, which puts his arrival year as 1876, not 1875 as listed on 1920 census for Isabelle VOGT, and coincides with the manifest records found by Joanne GONSALVES in April 1995, which list him as arriving on the S.S. France into the port of NYC on 7 September 1876.
  Occupation	Sculptor  [8]
  Reference Number	636
  _UID	21E6CE775EF6485E82418B58B8B9CA779ED8
  Died	1 Dec 1880	New York, New York, NY, USA   [8, 12, 13]
  	OBIT appeared in a French-language newspaper, Courrier des Etats-Unis (New York, New York), Thursday, December 2, 1880, Page 3: "Vogt -- Decede le ler decembre 1880, Jules Vogt, a l'age 66 ans, Les funerailles auront lieu de la maison mortuaire, a Trement, N.Y. aujourd'hui (jeudi) a 2 heures." "Vogt -- died on l December 1880, Jules Vogt, at age 66, The funeral will be held in the funeral home, a Tremont, N.Y. today (Thursday) 2 o'clock."
  Buried	2 Dec 1880	Bronx, Bronx, NY, USA   [8]
  	Julius VOGT was buried in: Woodlawn Cemetery & Crematory Webster Ave & E 233rd Street Bronx, NY 10470 718-920-0500 Information obtained from Woodlawn Cemetery: VOGT, Julius 66 Yrs Lot No. A, Range 34, Grave 11 Register of interment No. 20259, Folio 253 Register of Single Interment No. 4322, page 101 Register of Receiving Tomb No. (blank) Diagram Book No. (blank) Date of Death: Dec 1, 1880 Date of Interment: Dec 2, 1880 Last Residence: 173 St & Madison Ave.
  Person ID	I636	My Genealogy
  Last Modified	21 Jun 2021

  
  

  Father	Jean Henri Joseph VOGT,   b. 28 Jan 1762, Mainz, Departément Mont-Tonnere (Donnersberg), Bavaria (French) ,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Mother	Marie Catherine RETTIG,   b. 20 Jun 1778, Kaiserslautern, Departément Mont-Tonnere (Donnersberg), Bavaria (French) ,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Married	21 Mar 1801	Kaiserslautern, Departément Mont-Tonnere (Donnersberg), Bavaria (French)   [14, 15]
  Family ID	F377	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Eugenie PICARD,   b. Abt 1817, Paris, France ,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Immigration (fam)	1876  [1]
  	Julius, Eugenie, Isabelle, and Lucien are listed as arriving in NYC on the SS France from le Havre on 7 September 1876, mysteriously arriving under the last name BRAUN.
  Children	1. Paul Albert VOGT,   b. 10 Jan 1842, Paris, France ,   d. 3 Apr 1914, Everett, Middlesex, MA, USA  (Age 72 years)   2. Mathilde VOGT,   d. Yes, date unknown   3. Jules Oscar VOGT, Jr.,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Last Modified	13 Nov 2020
  Family ID	F252	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Sources

  [S110] Ship Manifest, BRAUN-VOGT (Reliability: 2). [S308] BC, Jule Oscar VOGT (Reliability: 2). [S525] CD-ROM, Germans to America (Reliability: 2). [S310] 1880 Census, Julius VOGT (Reliability: 2). [S307] BC, Julius Oscar VOGT (Reliability: 2). [S159] MC, VOGT-DUPUIS (Reliability: 2). [S108] 1880 Census, J VOGT (Reliability: 2). [S306] DC, Julius VOGT (Reliability: 3). [S160] DC, Paul Albert VOGT (Reliability: 2). [S309] IGI, VOGT-RETTIG. [S177] 1920 Census, Isabell VOGT (Reliability: 2). [S967] OBIT For Jules Oscar VOGT, Mortuary Notice for Jules VOGT; 2 December 1880; Page 3, Column 3; In French. [S979] NYC Municipal Deaths Julius Vogt, Julius Vogt; New York, New York City Municipal Deaths, 1795-1949; FHL microfilm 1,373,937. [S355] MC, VOGT-RETTIG (Reliability: 2). [S356] MC, VOGT-RETTIG (Reliability: 3).