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, "Unsolicited Email from Mary_jeanne PERRY," e-mail message from Shuula@olywa.net () to , 10 May 1998. Hereinafter cited as "1st Email from Mary-Jeanne Perry". |
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Unsolicited Email; Mary-Jeanne PERRY |
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"Unsolicited Email from Mary_jeanne PERRY." E-mail message from Shuula@olywa.net at . 10 May 1998. |
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, "1st Email from Mary-Jeanne Perry," e-mail to , 10 May 1998. |
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- Unsolicited email from Mary-Jeanne PERRY, who found my home page on the WorldWideWeb:
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#1
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 12:49:33 -0700
To: GeneVogt@mediaone.net
From: shuula@olywa.net
Subject: Vogt family tree
Hello.
Just found your web page. I am descended from a Vogt family from the region of Alsace-Lorraine on the German-French border. At varying times in history, the province has belonged to Germany, and at various times to France. It has gone back and forth. It is currently part of France. The most famous city is Strasbourg.
When Great Grandpa Vogt was growing up, Alsace was part of France. In 1870 or 1871, Germany took over. Great Grandpa Vogt decided to emigrate to the United States. He stopped in Paris, married Isabelle DuPuis at the Church of the Madeleine in Paris, and they left for the U.S. shortly thereafter.
Great Grandpa Vogt's family in Alsace had made stained-glass windows. My brother visited Alsace last summer (or the summer before) on vacation. He said that Vogt is a very common name there and that there are still people there who make stained glass !!!
I do wish I knew Great Grandpa Vogt's first name, but I don't.
Do you think we might be related? Please let me know.
Thanks,
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#2
To: shuula@olywa.net
Subject: Re: Vogt family tree
An amazing coincidence. We appear to be cousins of the same generation (2nd cousin? 3rd cousin?). You don't include your last name so I can't tell you if I know about you or not. Please tell me who you are!!
Some of your details are accurate, some are not. The VOGT who married Isabelle Dupuis at the Church of the Madeleine was named Paul Albert VOGT. He was born in Paris (not Alsace-Lorraine) in 1842. He is my Great-Grandfather too. Family lore tells of his wife Isabelle being born in Alsace-Lorraine, but in fact she was born in Paris as well. Her parents may have come from Alsace-Lorraine, however.
Paul's father, Julius Oscar VOGT, was born in Kaiserslautern in 1814 when it was under French rule. He married Eugenie PICARD (whom we know little about). Julius' father was Jean Henri Joseph VOGT, who was born in Mainz in 1762, when it was under French rule. I have lots of information about the VOGT line, after years of research.
Julius, his wife Eugenie, daughter-in-law Isabelle, and infant grandson Lucien (my grandfather) all sailed on the SS.France from LeHavre to New York, arriving on 7 September 1876. Mysteriously, they sailed under the last name BRAUN, but were recorded as VOGT both in Paris before the voyage and in NYC after. Paul arrived in NYC at approximately the same time, but we have not been able to find him listed on a ship manifest, whereas we found the other four.
Which child of your Great Grandpa Vogt are you descended from?
Also, do you happen to know David Gonsalves, who also uses olywa.net as an ISP?
Gene
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#3
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 23:48:12 -0700
To: "Eugene F. Vogt"
From: Mary-Jeanne Perry
Subject: Hi cousin!
Dear Eugene,
This is really amazing. I just started this family tree stuff a few weeks ago. I've been sending out these e-mails to people who might potentially be cousins, but I never hear anything back. Or else I get the response that they're not related. After a while, I expect no results. You're the first unknown person I've ever written to that turned out to be related to me!
Yes, Isabelle DuPuis, our great grandmother, whom everyone called "Grandma Belle" was born in Paris. She was also baptized in the Church of the Madeleine, as well as being married there. Is it spelled DuPuis or Dupuis or duPuis? I have no idea.
Matilda Mabel Vogt Forde was my grandmother. I guess she would be Lucien's sister? Matilda had three daughters -- Evelyn Forde Perry, (died 1969), Marie Forde DeRubeis, (still alive), and Marguerite Forde Sheppard (still alive).
Evelyn was my mother. I had 2 brothers and 1 sister. My sister lives in Connecticut and has 3 children. One of my brothers died childless in 1987. My other brother moved to France 25 years ago. He married a French woman. They have 3 children, one of whom died last month. I went over there to the funeral. We began discussing the family tree, which sparked my recent research.
Marie still lives in the Boston area. She has three children in the Boston area. Two of them have children of their own. I know all those cousins very well.
Marguerite still lives in the Boston area. She has one son who lives in Florida. I have never met him.
Who is Francis Litchfield? He is a first cousin of our parents. My aunts and my mother were close to him when they were young. He must be descended from one of the siblings of Lucien and Matilda.
There was also another first cousin of our parents named Tillie Fox. (Tillie was a nickname for Matilda) She was named after her aunt (my grandmother). Tillie lived in or near York Beach, Maine. I met her once when I was really little.
One of my Forde-DeRubeis cousins recently told me that he had heard that the oldest brother of Lucien and Matilda was named Marcel Vogt. My grandmother Matilda's husband was Harry Forde. Supposedly Marcel Vogt and brother-in-law Harry Forde ran the "Vogt-Forde Paint Company". I just heard of this 2 weeks ago.
Have you heard anything about it? What happened to the paint company after they died?
I never knew anything about the family tree. I knew that my grandmother had many siblings but I never knew anything about them. What were their names? There was also a "Great Aunt Georgette" whom I never met, or maybe met once. I've heard she was a relation of Matilda's.
It's funny how different relatives remember things differently at different times. I had always thought the Vogt family was from Paris, until 2 days ago when my brother told me that our aunt had once told him that Great Grandpa was from Alsace. That's why he was excited to find the name Vogt so common when he visited Alsace. Where did the stained-glass window-maker legend come from?
So you say we have Picard blood. Hmmm... Of course I have to ask if there was a Captain Picard. Did the Picards have vineyards? (The fictional Star Trek Captain Picard came from a French family who had vineyards).
So you say they landed in New York. When and why did my branch come to Boston? Do you know anything about that?
I'm interested in the Dupuis (duPuis? DuPuis?) side of the family. Do you know anything about them? My brother said only well-to-do people or those of well-known families went to the Church of the Madeleine. I read on a web site last night, that Josephine Baker's funeral was held there in 1975. It is very beautiful. It looks just like the Parthenon in Athens. It was made to be an exact replica of what the Parthenon would've looked like in its prime. I went there in 1973. There is a picture at
http://www.paris.org/Monuments/Madeleine/
And, what I really want to know is, do we still have any relatives in France? (other than my brother). (He moved there after going there on exchange in college. He didn't know anyone there before he went). He lives 120 miles southwest of Paris, in the Loire river valley.
As for your Internet question, olywa.net stands for "Oly" and "WA" (Olympia Washington). I have lived in Olympia for the past 11 years. As far as I know, all the OlyWa.Net subscribers live here in the Olympia area as well. It's the state capital city, but not large like Seattle. I don't know David Gonsalves.
Now for my Internet question. I forgot to bookmark your web site this morning when I first found it. I stopped to write you my first e-mail to you, and then I logged off. So where is your web site again?
I have heard (from various web sites) that the name Vogt comes from Bavaria. Are we related to the Bavarian Vogt's? Also, I found a web site that gives the meaning/origin of the name Vogt. What do you think of this web site:
http://www.freenet.hamilton.on.ca/~ab501/Gen/Surnames/Vogt/vogt.html
(long URL -- you may have to cut and paste to get the whole thing)
Last question -- where do you live?
Best Wishes,
Mary-Jeanne Perry
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